McGrath, You are right of course, what I meant was that the current connection broken, any future association in a Euopean union would be broad banded for all countries within the union, mostly concerned with tariffs, trade etc. I should have said the present English connection brought about by the Act of Union.Pooka, I might just start toasting the day of deliverance immediately, just in case I'm not here for the blessed event. Thanks for the suggestion. God I'm easily persuaded.