I'd have to second Rick on the Takamine - Many years ago (20 +) I picked up a Tak 12-string - an absolute 'Guild Wanna-be', down to the inlay and distinctive Logo design...

I ached for (but could never have afforded) the Guild model - I still have the Takamine - and wouldn't part with it's sweet clear resonance, easy action and 'comfortable' fit... 'Course, still haunted by the occasional Guild-daydream...

Sorry that I don't know how current prices compare against the Guild or Taylors - I do know that some Tak's are on the high end (deservedly, I think)...

I'll be interested in your decision, and how it fits into your group, Janner - Let us know, OK ?

Good luck, M.