WOW! What a thread this has turned out to be. I thought of this question for a few days before I posted it, not knowing what kind of response it would receive. All your postings have hit a responsive and thoughtful note with me. Thank you all. Look at the depth of experiences and feeling in notes from Jerry, Art, Art's son, Francy, Jonesey, Paul G., Celtic Soul, Don, on and on. It's times like this that make me appreciate of, not just MUDCAT (thanks again MAX) but all of you wonderful people who care to post and nurture this chat line. CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson