OK - I get the point about vocal lessons - and I agree. Actually, I have taken a few and, while I share that fear that Don mentioned - she actually wasn't too scary after all, in fact it was very worthwhile. At this point, and back to my original question, I'm looking for something that I can use, CD's or tapes, for practice, warm up... driving down the road, that sort of thing... I bought one set a while back that was WAY too completx and deep - I dont want to sing opera, just not drive folks away from the campfire (they'll get cold) Lane