Is it any surprise that members feel that it is guests who are the problem, and guests feel that it is the members who are the problem?

I think that is a silly position for anyone to take, actually. Where does that sort of blame game get anyone?

And (groan) please spare us from the "data on that"! <:-0

I'm that guest who said this forum is perceived differently by different users. Some people come here for community, some come here for information and the chance to discuss things, and nothing more.

One group shouldn't be allowed to get away with bullying the other in a perfect world. But this being the internet, it is inevitable that it would happen, especially when one group has benefits and access, and the other group only access.

However, considering that choosing which one has is a free choice made by individuals, it just shouldn't be an issue.

There are member/trolls/jerks and guest/trolls/jerks. But as Guest Amy has sensibly pointed out, changing the log-in won't eliminate rudeness. Nothing can totally eliminate rudeness, but collectively a group of people can keep it to a minimum.

However, as long as members continue to get a bug up their but over the guests, that collective group policing to keep rudeness to a minumum just isn't going to happen. Because those members who insist upon continuing to bitch about guests, whether anon, pseudo, or w/a name, you are going to have a much higher level of rudeness than if the members would just accept guests as they are, however they come, and quit their bitching about them.