Lucy started the whole thing by saying that she should not have to pay for her children when it is her that wants to go to festivals and they have to go whether they want to or not but I cannot think of any ticketed event that you could get children into for nothing by saying "They don't want to be here". I will try that the next time when I take the kids to the cinema or Disneyland or Stately home (where they definitely dont want to be). Just a thought. Mac