Very funny LH about the tone quality etc....

The California Gull is the State Bird of Utah because a huge colony that lives on Islands in the Great Salt Lake saved the mormon pioneers from starvation by eating up a plague of crickets...some say they took them out to the lake and spit them up and came back for more again and again....

There must be about 20 folk songs about this now if you want to start another insipid thread I bet people here could come up with most of them....

If you want a good cheap twelve string to throw in your car, take to the beach etc.... find yourself a Seagull..used ones can be had for about $200.