Nice try, Peg. The sigh was very effective. But I note that you still don't wish to answer the question. Also that you are attempting to dodge by attempting to paint me as a closet chauvinist. It is still a dodge. You see, I agree that men who, in an attempt to gain favor with women, brag about their feminism. There is a fundamental difference in this thread however. It was you who questioned my motives, as well as inferring that I had a bias based on gender. So mine was a response to your attempt to hide behind the old red herring. But nice try. I must point out, however, that I have read your posts, and posted on what I read.

BTW, you don't seem to have insulted any of the MEN in this discussion who have disagreed with you; hence my calling attention to your rather sexist tone.

Here is where you really show your lack of depth, and how you are avoiding the debate of fact and hiding behind the "sexism" issue. All one has to do is scan any of the gun threads (of which you have been a part of also) and you would know that I am vigorous in my debate with any of them. And the most important thing you should remember is that it was you who made the first reference that I responded too. Maybe, in you convoluted logic, you thought I should have responded to someone else? Then you introduced the gender piece? Maybe I should have ignored it? Your arguments are weak, Peg, and you don't want to address facts. You want to hang on to tired old cliche's because they suit you. And worst of all, you would attack someone, and imply him a sexist, who has more in common with you than not, because he disagrees.

jimlad, we don't need guns. We have a right to them. Fundamental difference.

Mick