I bought an ancient FG420 on the cheap for my lad, fettled it up and was really really sick when he took it away!!! Loud , full and so easy to play....!! 3/4 years ago I got myself an LL11 acoustic - for me, unsurpassed value for money and a fabulous sound, but the neck's slightly too narrow for open string picking. Still rate them highly, mass produced in China or not!! Also have a Lowden 032, which is fabulous but not 4 times better than Yam as price might imply! Regards to all - Spot