I beg forgiveness if this was already mentioned in the massive prequel thread, but there is a very similar discussion going on at www.salonmagazine.com in the "table talk" section. Theirs began March 24 with the basic "pop" vs "soda" dichotomy and has diverged. When I last looked there were over 180 posts to that one. It is a bit more manageable because you only get 10 or so at a time and reload as you go. that also means you can quit any time without feeling guilty about waiting half a day for the whole thing to load. I don't know how much duplication there is because I haven't plunged deeply into either the Mudcat or the Salon series.

rich r