Now, Norton, if you were speaking to me for bad mouthing "W" just keep in mind that if Al Gore had been elected, and 9-11 had happened (which is open for debate) he would have done the same things as Bush and I'd be saying the same thing about him instead of Bush. My point has been that we as a supposed "civilized" nation have turned to "uncivilized" ways to solve differences between people. This war on terrorism is a bad joke. It has not solved any long term problems nor made the planet safer, but quite the opposite. 90% of military science involves LOGISTICS. Conscription is just one logistical problem on a long list of other logistical problems. When we get bogged down thinking of logistical problems, we are not thinking of ways to promote peace but quite the opposite. We could just as easily be discussing which weapons to use and how to get them to battle sites. It's military thinking. Not peace thinking.

War always represents HUMAN FAILURE. Not success.

THINK PEACE, PROMOTE PEACE.

Bobert