great, keep it coming. Misophist: afraid you still havent grasped what I'm looking for. Let me put it this way. Greg Stephens is my name.It was given to me by someone else. Misophist is your name. You chose it for yourself. Those are the categories I want to put countries in. I dont want to know the etymology of "misophist" or "greg stephens", particularly, unless it has a bearing on who chose it.