John, I think that the reason you didn't understand Hedy's allusion to "Forbes" in relation to Ed Pearl was that she simply misremembered the name. She meant to say Hughes, not Forbes (all those billionaire's names sound alike?). Ed Pearl's wife at the time of Hedy's shows at the Ash Grove (where, by the way, I was working at the same time) was named Kate Hughes, not Forbes. Kate Hughes Pearl later married Ralph Rinzler, and they were still married at the time Ralph passed away.Mary Katherine