GUEST of ORIGIN,

Thank you for your thoughts, and thank you especially for reminding us of the direness of the cirumstances that resulted in the establishment of Israel--your points and reflections are also appreciated--they seem fair and well considered--a rarity in this time when fairness and reason are regarded as signs of treason--

And CarolC, hang in there! Don't let the bastards get you down--and if there is any doubt who the bastards are, I am sure that they will surface again--