Ive got to agree with Grab here. All my neighbours have cats & dogs. In my back garden, lovely as it is (Iam a keen gardener) cirtain places stink of cat urine, and the cats are allways pinching and playing with the fish & frogs out of the pond. I dont blame the cats, Its the owners. Weekend just gone; after work we decided to jump in the campervan and go for a little break. Loading the van up with bedding etc, we have to cross a grass verge. Allas we set off, verry nice,--and then,--;--;dog shit, who's stood in DOG SHIT. Well,, it was all over the van carpet, we did our best to clean it up, but you know what its like, we could still smell it on going to bed. I say again, I dont blame the dog/cat, its the owners. luckily, Iam a placid guy, and I can take it in my stride (Thats not to say I like it) But you pet owners should wake up and see how annoying your animals are to other people.(and birds) John.