HI Gang- Really a great thread Dont mind me I was a knee jerk liberal when young. but know I am somewhat to the right of Jengis kahn. I guess at 70 it's OK to have a wild hair up my butt every once and a while. The expression you were looking for was from Winston Churchill ]I think] If when you are young and not a liberal you have no heart. If when you are old and not a conservative then you have no brains.Actually hang on to your dreams and fight for them no matter what they are. THats what makes the world go round Allan