Wa sm I getting vibes from a thread or threads that I'd never seen, or do great minds ..., or is the subject just so general in its interest, but -- I was considering what I thought would be a new thread about these 'nonsense' vocalizations.

My concern is why certain refrains have become so firmly associated with particulat songs? Oh the diddley umtidah oh teh didley umtydah oh the di dy diddle-e-i-ay just can't be substituted arbitratily for whack fol the daddy oh, etc. etc. Can you imagine anyone presuming to sing a string of diddleys and then 'whisky in the jar'? I think not!

Who categorized the diddleys and the whacks, and when? Clancy/Makem tapes are my gospel, but I know they didn't originate the refrains.

If I left my typos without fixing them, they'd make a good set of refrains themselves.