Great thread! We're down in a valley by a creek and doves/pigeons don't hang out here (got cliff swallows, chickadees, Carolina wrens and cardinals instead), but we go often to Ash Cave in the Hocking Hills State Parks(central Ohio)where the roost in the pockets of the cave ceiling. I love to hear their cooing echo through the cave... Banjer, I'd love to see your photos... please PM me?Bekki