DougR and Lonesome EJ are demonstrating a textbook case of circular logic:.

We can't have peace until we don't have war, therefore we must endure war, because we don't have peace.

As to the argument that no one is "really" working on ending war--nothing could be further from the truth. Here is the UN link on conscription:

http://hri.ca/fortherecord1997/documentation/commission/e-cn4-1997-99.htm

We can also find our way to many websites of international bodies that may or may not be considered legitimate by DougR and Lonesome EJ (something tells me, they may not consider the UN a legitimate organization because they don't have nukes!), that demonstrates international momentum at the highest levels to end war. Arms treaties. Landmine bans. No nukes, from organizations like the Union of Concerned Scientists. The work to end forced conscription of children. The international conscientious objector movement. Its all there. Social change never happens with "a well laid plan, agreed to by all" as Lonesome EJ and DougR suggest.

The work is going ahead with or without you, DougR and Lonesome EJ. The fact that you two don't believe in it doesn't even matter. You are perfectly entitled to continue living your lives with your heads in the sand, and spouting off your empty rhetoric on internet discussion forums. But the world isn't listening to men like you anymore.