Jon, I don't know anything about the technical side of running this site and, as a new boy to Mudcat, don't know the personalities that drive it either but it seems clear to me that this is Maxs' baby and he regards it as a labour of love rather than a burden. I don't think we can expect to set up a commitee or demand to see accounts, which would surely be a timetaking exercise, in order to take over the running of this site. The recent problems experienced here have been frustrating and a number of us are grateful to you for your own site to fall back on, so I'd be the last person to be critical of you in raising this matter, but if Max wants financial support he knows where and how to ask for it and I suppose we should let him run his site as he wants it to run and offer our support if he needs it.