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Thread #48495   Message #730928
Posted By: GUEST
16-Jun-02 - 11:00 AM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: Lakes of Pontchartrain - Irish Words
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lakes of Ponchartrain - Irish Words
In any US library today, if you want to find a book by W.B. Yeats, you will be directed to the British literature section of the collection. If you wish to study the literature written by and about W.B. Yeats, one of Ireland's Nobel winners for literature, or Synge or Behan, you will most take classes in British literature to do so.

Most English people still refer to the island of Ireland as part of the "British Isles".

None of this is accurate or correct. I see people making those sorts of mistakes all the time, without people making snide comments, or becoming argumentative about it.

Wouldn't it just be best, and least confrontational, to gently point out the error of a person's ways? I mean heck, the original poster of this thread didn't make any of the mistakes in his post asking for the lyrics that he stood accused of by Greg--Greg was the ignorant one in this instance. Yet, he is the one being defended here. Why is that?

Why was the automatic assumption made by Greg and apparently Malcolm, that Jimmy C didn't know what the hell he was talking about, and was an ignorant stooge of some nebulous Irish/Celtic conspiracy against the English and the Scots that only a certain segment of the British folk scene seems able to see?

I agree with you An Pluiméir Ceolmhar, the sorts of remarks made by Greg and Malcolm are often seen as inflammatory--because those remarks ARE inflammatory. Jimmy C was slapped down by Greg the minute he posted, when Greg suggested he was guilty by association with the Irish/Celtic conspiracy that only Englishmen seem to be able to suss out of posts like his.

So, considering how rude and wrong Mr. Stephens was to begin with, perhaps he needs to apologise for starting this whole sorry affair to begin with. That strikes me as much more appropriate than suggesting that SeanN and Declan are the guilty parties here for being overly sensitive to such ignorant remarks.