Chet: are you asking about "would not have seemed to have been there"? The verb "would have seemed" is present perfect conditional, the "not" is of course an adverb and "to have been there" is a perfect infinitive, a verbal noun serving as the complement of the copulative verb "seemed." I hope that is perfectly clear: it will appear in the mid-term exam.

And Roger: I was at Fresno State [California} College (now University, current home of Jerry Tarkanian). I think the time is more telling than the place--1958--but Fresno State was pretty well segregated socially: my fraternity, Theta Chi, was the first on campus to integrate--that is, to let Armenians join. Alpha Phi Alpha was the African American fraternity (incidentally, its president, as I recall, was named Ivey--I think his first name was Mike). One of the sororities had a Chinese American member. The city was divided by Highway 99 into Fresno and West Fresno. West of the highway (now the freeway) was populated mostly by minorities, very few if any of whom lived east of the freeway. --seed