Wolfgang, I'm with you on everything you said, except ...I do think that it is reasonable to expect liberals to be consistent when they talk about violence. McGrath certainly follows that line, and Carol has too, with a proviso.

GUEST mg: If I read your post correctly, you are saying there will not be a Palestinian state. I believe there will be, but as GUEST JTT has pointed out, it will not happen so long as both Israel and the Palestinian terrorists feed off each other's violence against the other, it will not happen.

DougR