Carol, I think that you and I come at this subject from extremely different positions, from nearly opposite corners many times, but I do appreciate being able to read your posts and post back, and I don't think we've ever picked at each other personally. Thanks for that. I think that is very valuable, one of the things that I treasure about the general discussion threads Mudcat threads. Because I have an Israeli daughter and grandson and many former in-laws living there, I get the Israeli perspective, and I understand it. It seems crystal clear to me that Israel is defending itself and its right to exist, and we can discuss that, and the history that got us where we are, and whose misbehavoiors or misconceptions are worse. But it is not about you, nor me, nor any of the posters. It behooves us all to remember that, imho.

(Robomatic - I really like the fairness parable!)