I find a lot of good sense in what Ed and Jim suggest. Mudcat was my first real experience of a web forum and I'm still learning. I did try the DT for the song which I was looking for at the time, but didn't turn it up - I think because of the old alternative spellings problem. Fortunately, a post on the forum produced answers within minutes.At the same time I'm tempted to suggest that if everything is made too easy to find in the DT, fewer unsuspecting passers-by will be lured into the forum, never to emerge again...