refresh for the new people, (I did some firedancing at Beverley folk Festival with Mrs Harpmaker (Christine) and sa big bloke she knows, I can't remember his name so I will just call him big bloke for now, he was teaching us how to do firedancing, christine was very good at it, and got the hang of it straight away, but I was a bit crap at it and I fell over, (it was about 4.00 AM, and I was pissed).john