Dear coyote and harvey and etc. who think blacks feel excluded. Get a clue. Tons of people, white, black and other, detest anglo-celtic-trad because it AIN'T GOT NO SWING. There's no beat. It bores 'em. They don't want to be included in your all-inclusive world view, they think yer music's square and puny and silly. There's a reason rock'n'roll took over the world, it's got more soul and bite than what came before.I'm not agreeing with this view, I just see it every day and was kind of amazed it wasn't mentioned in the thread.