What does he mean by "money"? He can't mean cash, or cheques would be a way round it. So, would a tab at the bar count as money? Or a pint in the hand? Or would increased takings at the bar associated with a session count as money changing hands, even if none of it goes to the musicians, who might even be providing most of those increased takings? (And if that seems daft, that has been how the position has been stated by Kim Howells' man Richard Bridgett)?

It's important to ensure that the right questions are being discussed in any Parliamentary committee that scrutinises this legislation.

It would be very foolish to relax and take it that Kim Howells' waffling means that we aren't going to be under threat any more.