Little Hawk's remarks about a full grown weimaraner reminds me of a cat a friend in Ipswich (Suffolk) had. This beast was about the size of a bushel basket, which translates to about 35-40# of cat. I had walked up the close to his yard, with my Sheltie, who had grown well above standard, and was chatting with him when he noticed his cat paying particular attention to the dog. "I'd watch your dog," he mentioned, "Bobby is stalking it." "That's OK, we have cats so Fred won't hurt your cat." "No, I was worried for your dog!" he replied. And the cat did seem to be "stalking with intent. Dave