G'day Guest ADC,I had a look at the first site you (almost) linked ... I wouldn't spent 5 seconds there ... it smells like a nicely organised, certified, officially sanctioned, commercial money sucker.
It's sites like that that make me love Mudcat ... and put up with all the human foibles of someone crazy enough to endure Mudcatters!
But ... I see where you are coming from ... Good ... Bye!
Regards,
Bob Bolton