Great thread, guys. I just checked in--somewhat put off by the word "appropriateness"--it's puritanical, in a weaselly way. It's late at night, almost 1 a.m., and I have to work tomorrow (I'll admit I start late)(and that I have a pretty easy time of it, teaching photography and home-made music in an independent study school), so I'll make it short. No comment on the Mick v. Sapper scuffle; my only point is that if you don't cross the line at least a bit you're just "preaching to the choir," which is comfortable, but it doesn't change any minds. Of course if it's your living, and you want to keep on feeding the wee ones... (gratuitous Irish locution) It's way past my bed time and I'm babblin--and still trying to figure out why we are blowing the shit out of Yugoslavia to stop Christians from killing Muslims while we are sending weapons and other support to Muslims in Indonesia who have been killing Christians in East Timor far longer and in far greater numbers. It ain't mercy, guys--it's Realpolitik. --seed