Glen2glen, please read my post. I purposely used the name his parents gave him to make a specific point. I also indicated that I understood cycicism about the church. But I stand by the main premise of my post. To suggest that Karol Wojtyla hasn't spent his life in service to others is ludicrous.

And Peter, my dear friend, were there any fella's paradin' around in tangerine toga's? You know the ones, shaved heads and acting like the secret to the universe lies in their grasp? Does the thought occur that maybe, just maybe, these young people have a brain capable of making judgements on their own as to what values their own spirits hold dear. I certainly am part of the loyal opposition within the Church, and agree with most of your assessment as to the policies this man has implemented. But I would remind you that even his most strident critics acknowledge that this man is a mystic and operates from a deep spiritual place within himself. He acts on his conviction, and his faith.

Take note, friends. You won't see Peter and I disagree often. But the tone of my friends post suggested a mocking tone. I may not agree with much this Pope has done, but he is a man of his values and his faith. At the risk of much criticism from the modern world, he has stayed the course on what he considers right and wrong. As far as the fool above who claims all the abuse..........I don't believe you. And even if it were true, I was an altar boy, as were many in my family. None of us were ever molested. So what is the relevance of your statement? And what does it say about the Pope, who has clearly and unequivocally stated that there is no room in the Church for any that would harm the children?

Mick