I'm pretty sure there have been a number of occasions where football fans coming out of pubs after watching a match on the box have been involved in fights where serious injuries have occurred.

I know I dropped into town centre pub just after a match involving England in the World Cup, and it felt decidedly hairy - and that wasn't one where they'd lost, or where there were any local people backing the other team.

Howells really is an apology for a minister isn't he?