Fionn, your predilection for just arguing is showing. Says something about your ability to have a decent discourse. You apparently feel that it is not possible to admire your adversary or someone you disagree with. That is the attitude of a juvenile mindset, or one who is very bitter, or one whose experience in the world comes from only studying ideology, conflict and never experiencing it. It's the old purity of thought bullshit. You don't seem to understand the concept of loyal opposition. Whatever it is that makes you this way seems a damn shame to me.

No where have I said that I agree with the Pope on all issues. What I did say is that it is ludicrous to say that he hasn't devoted his life to people. In the Lomax threads, most people seem very willing to judge his whole life, and forgive him his errors due to the place and time he was raised. Karol Wojtyla deserves the same.

Mick