Thank you for the tip Bob... yes now that you said it I do remember vaguely seeing may be actually something similiar. will have to actually go out in the real world in a music shop and ask real people..here in Berlin .(odd thing to think about being glued to this page)..they might actually be of some help ...but may be also another mud catter is still faster than me finding the right shop..:-) we shall see.thanks anyway to down under..Greetings from Dagmar