The oriental market down the steet didn't have the stuff. I ended up with tiger balm... thought I was buying the "Ultimate" and brought home "White" instead. Practically useless, but it feels nice and doesn't smell as bad as Ben-Gay or Icy Hot. Well, it's a Korean market. The owner had never heard of the particular ointment, and seemed a little offended when I said maybe I should try a Chinese market instead. :)I know where the Viet neighborhood is... wonder where I could find a real Chinese market around here? Guess I have a project for Saturday. Better yet, maybe I can find an herbalist open on Saturday. I've had several musicians tell me about a "powder" they've gotten from Chinese herbalists that worked like magic on one-time overuse injuries; I guess it would be helpful for repetitive injuries, too.