You tickle me with the way you try to set a predicate............and even if someone doesn't bite on it you just go on as if they did. Once again your self view doesn't match what is happening.

First off, let me say that your sites were well researched but the fact that you know how to cite them only testifies to your academic background, not your activism. Thus, based on your writings above, I have every reason to suggest the same things about you that you suggest about Bobert. You claim that you have been at it since 1970, but you cite nothing as evidence. Bobert gave specifics. When I factor in your record in trying to do all you can to discredit the site and the folks that come here on a regular basis, I must tell you that I prefer the Boberts of the world. As a person who has done much of the street level work for many causes including this one over the years (and no, I won't debate my credentials with you) I have seen many who can cite this stuff, but I prefer to work with the men and the women who roll up their sleeves and get to work.

Now.........back to your tactic on the predicate. I set you up. Anyone who reads these threads regularly knows two things about my relationship with both kat and Harpgirl. I think highly of both of them. They have both contributed much over the years, of value to this place. Unlike you, their goal is to be a part of the community and contribute positively to it. The second thing you would know about our relationships is that we often tangle. There are things we just don't agree on. I never defended kat on this one, as I thought she was guilty of what you have charged. She and I just got into it a week ago or so because she did the same to me, IMO. BUT, I also know that that is just our kat just as she knows things about me. So I just let it pass. Our motives aren't to disparage the place and players, we just argue as friends do. Yours, on the other hand, are much more transparent. The way you reacted to her flip remark was way over the top. Ever ask yourself why you do this?

What happened to you? Why such bitterness about this place? Why the many handles, male and female? Who did what to you to turn you into this self righteous, martyr? Come on down off the cross. If it was me that set you down the path, tell me what it was. You are so cranky, that I can only deduce that you are just a bitter person who has built such resentment that you just can't see what you have become. Obviously you weren't always this way, given the things that you seem to discuss with intensity. I sure wish you would examine this, as you obviously have much to contribute, but as it is you are just nasty.

Mick