Well Ralphie, I don't rush to judgment quite as quickly as those of you with economic interests tied up with CM. And I guess therein lies the difference.

Producer of Nic Jones CD has an economic interest in squashing the CM releases. Now, I agree that putting out a CDR and claiming it is a CD is wrong. And I'm as much on the artists' side as the next guy when it comes to them being paid fairly for their creative output, as well as being in control of how it gets used, when and by whom. But I don't have as much sympathy for professional musicians in the latter case as I used to. There really is no reason NOT to have legal representation now, or even 30 years ago in the folk music business.

Finally, I do draw the line when it comes to undertaking a public spear campaign to discredit people and drive them out of business when there is no proof of legal wrongdoing, which is what I think the Jones Jihad campaign is trying to do to Celtic Music and Bulmer.

As I said, you and Nic Jones have a financial stake in this discussion. You have a financial incentive, and I think money has been at the top of the agenda for the two of you all along, not morality.