Still don't understand how you can separate a legitimate Folk/Blues site from the phoalks's blues and giggles. I don't think the mudcats is an intellectual exercise...I think its music is a heart thing....that "MUSICAL information, MUSICAL dialogue, MUSICAL insight, and MUSICAL expertise", after all,... comes from REAL people!! Maybe reading and UNDERSTANDING songs and lyrics from the database before deciding whether or not to bother with the Forum....would be helpful.