Well, the thing is Mz.Sorchy, that I was thinkin' about was why do other more ancient cultures still have old songs and ways somewhat preserved and the traditions held by the Northern European tribes seems to have been completely crushed and lost. Hebrews were able to record their works via the written word and Native Americans seemingly have passed it down from generation to generation from their beginnings, but white folks' stuff seems to begin somewhere in the Middle Ages and everything prior to the Christianization of those tribes and clans seems to be gone. I thought maybe someone here who is schooled in this sort of thing properly would know of something that might have slipped through the cracks and been preserved. Or could it possibly be that our (mine anyhow) ancestors were so barbaric and savage that there were no songs to preserve?