Rick, maybe you have a multi-flora rose. They are little more than a bush and when they do flower the roses are wee things. The rose companies use them to graft onto (seed grown roses are EXPENSIVE). Another useless tidbit about them. The Government talked farmers in the 30's into planting them as living fences. That was all fine and good, except that birds love to eat their seeds and they drop them everywhere. Well, I can live with a wild rosebush except sometimes they grow huge and if you are hunting or walking in the woods they are a royal pain in the behind. I was in the woods a few hours ago and the darn things are everywhere. Oh, this is cool. I caught a salamander and now he has joined my seven goldfish named Ralph in my pond by the computer. Thanks for the compliments folks.