Right Arm & Fore Out, Venthony & Okthen. May you be knockknockknockin' on Heaven's door while the rest of these Nuts are buried far east of Eden.

Mark Cohen, heal thyself, & rest easy: *nobody* equals the mighty catspaw in the eloquence department.

Mr. 'spaw sir: **LOL** & thankee kindly. That's on behalf of EllJaySee too, for whom I am a Designated Politico-Ethnic Spokespooka. Sorry to hear about yer getting trapped by the Long Winded Clap, but this, too, shall Pass. Regarding your Ringer, I believe it's dePicted on an archeological website: see What-the-Fook-Pook post on Oldest European Folksong thread. It's a load of horseshoes but you'll enjoy it. :)