See..........Doug........that is where folks that think like you lose me. You always revert to that tired old "love it or leave it" line of horsepucky. Is that what I served my country to preserve? Or did I serve my country so that people can criticize the society? Folks with "good, old fashioned values" really don't have them at all. Of late, I have been reading a great deal about our founders and their vision. Guess what? That isn't what they envisioned. You see, we fight and die so that people can burn flags, dissent from the majority, find fault with our government, and ..............heaven forbid........criticize GWB. There is no need for them to consider moving. They live in a country where that would fly in the face of what was envisioned. Our founders were progressives. They set up a form of government that could morph and change and be what was demanded by conditions at the time. And they set it up with a very important set of checks and balances so that no one faction, no one branch, could supercede the others.

I can't believe that patriotic fellas such as yourself, and I am being sincere when I say that, don't understand the danger right now. But you will.

Mick