Thanks all. Kat,please thank Rog for me, that seems like the best way to go.It's now 7pm on the Friday before a Bank Holiday so it will be a few days before I can track one down and the Stateside "special offer" ends on August 31, so I shall have to get my skates on. cheers bill (off to find an "Importin'exportin' man" which is about as near to music as I can pull this thread)