Don: They don't work, because we don't make them work. The river that divides the conservative from the liberal is too wide at the moment. A few more Goldwaters in the Senate would certainly go a long way toward achieving the conservative's goals.

Ebbie: Sorry my posts are not clear enough to you. I see no point in writing copious posts in a forum so obviously left leaning. What I write will sway no one. I do like to jab a few of my liberal friends, though, from time to time, and Bobert is one of my favorites.

Toad: it pains me to see you lump Senator McCain in with Barry Goldwater. McCain is no conservative. I don't know what he is. I guess the best word that describes MacCain is ambitious.

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