Taliesn, I've got no quarrel with you and understand most of your reasonings for these threads, even if your rhetoric is a little convoluted, at times.:-)

I should have clarified, by "precursors" I meant several other threads besides yours which preceded this one, in which the bullies precluded any reasonable and open discussion about just those things you and your mother conversed upon.

I had a similar upbringing, through the influence of my brother, and have a great deal of experience, as well as years of studying such subjects, but absolutely no desire to get specific in these threads, as there are those who would not allow it past their ridicule, either outright or through so-called hard science.

Thanks for understanding,

kat