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Thread #51241   Message #779942
Posted By: SharonA
09-Sep-02 - 04:04 PM
Thread Name: A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11
Subject: RE: A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11
We could always ask Little Hawk what the Star Date for September 11, 2001 is. ;^)

By the way, Orac, the date of US's Independence Day is referred to here in the States as either "July 4th" or "The Fourth of July", but never "4th July". Likewise, we would say "the eleventh of September" if we were to put the day before the month when speaking or writing it out. It would be interesting to research the origins of the MM/DD/YY and DD/MM/YY shorthand and to investigate the circumstances that led to the divergence in notation (for instance, when the calendar was originally invented, which notation was used?). But I think that the worldwide coverage of the terrorist attacks and their aftermath has already defeated your argument that the meaning of the term "9/11" is unclear; if one were to refer to the tragedy as "11/9", I think it would be less clear that the attacks occurred in the US, where the MM/DD/YY notation is used.

Because I'm sure that the terrorists picked that date because of the US's use of "911" as an emergency telephone number, I always get a feeling that the terrorists have scored an additional tiny victory whenever announcers on TV or radio say "nine-eleven" when they refer to the attacks (even though we Yanks call the emergency number "nine-one-one"). I myself prefer to say "September 11th" when speaking aloud of the attacks; it's just a little trick to keep the two dissociated in my mind, but it makes me feel that I'm not thinking in the defeatist way the terrorists want me to, because I'm not mentally equating "terrorism" with "life-threatening emergency". Does that make sense to anyone else but me?

As far as Larry's dilemma goes, it seems to me that the people who want his CD's in the music stores should be asking the music stores instead of asking Larry! If enough people demand that songs of truth are what they want to buy, the commercial-music industry will eventually have to listen to their consumers and put more songs of truth on the airwaves and store shelves.