Lima Tango - Bobert - Cease fire for a second. As one who has sat in fighting holes and seen friends go away I have a belief that you are both talking about the same thing.

For me I believe the line that gets drawn puts the warrior in the wrong space. Sure Veteran's Groups are supportive of the Veterans. I don't know about the rank and file. Here in Idaho I would say that we are 90% Republican, whatever that means, but none of the Combat Veterans I know are out in the streets screaming for us to go to war. What we are about is trying to find the means to be supportive of our country, that is in deep pain, and not go getting us involved in something that we cannot extricate ourselves from.

I personally do not support our going into Iraq. Iraq has had ample opportunity to utilize the weapons of mass destruction on US Forces during the Gulf War and did not. And the current administration has not provided the evidence of Iraqs acquisition of nuclear capability, mas destruction, or their willingness to use what they currently have for anything after the Kurds got gassed.

But if we go into Iraq - I will support our troops and our national policy while continuing to find a middle ground that keeps me sane - well as sane as I get.

And Brother Bobert - you get awfully self-righteous at times and really make a big deal of how you fought against the war in Viet Nam. While you were beginning that I was fighting in Viet Nam. Then I came back to people accusing me of being the problem. I joined the Viet Nam Veterans Against the War, supported the troops coming home, and opposed the war. Something most of you anti-war folks were not able to do. At least in my experience. Those folks were, and are, in my opinion, the derogatory sense of Hippies.

None of us has the moral high ground here. Including me - I'm babbling and will climb off my soap box now -

Steve Neff Former Corporal of Marines