Okay, I'll try again, Steve... First of all there's a world of difference between "Former Corporal of the Marines" and "LT., USMC, Vietnam". One has a softness to it and the other a hard staccato-ness to it that was, either intended or not, is threatening. That, coupled with the prior "bag of pus" remarks about a Presidnet set a tone that heavily implies,"Im right, End of Discussion"

In these times we need a lot more discussion, not less. There are differences of opinion as there were in 1776 and thats an essential element of democracy, that is if we are going to continue Jefferson, at al's experiement.

With that said, ol' bobert having explained his possible misinterpretation of intent, extends a most heartfelt apology to any veteran in Mudcat who I have offended here. I have deep respect for each and every one of you. Your courage exemplifies what it is to be an American. I lost a cousin and 8 close friends in Vietnam and I know that you folks suffered thru equally or greater pain than I. It is my deepest hope that yet another generation will not be put in harms way and suffer the pains that we all still carry daily when the leaders have not done every possible thing that can be done to prevent it.

I am deeply sorry, Claymore and Steve, most specificly...

Peace

Bobert