Joe, if I wanted to do something sneaky, as I pointed out earlier, would I ask publicly how todo it? I was having a searching and accessing old message problems and so have a number of other people. I thought of asking that mildly amusing(well I thought so) question in the hope that people would tell me technically how to do it, which has solved all my problems perfectly(including the reading of long threads,though only with extreme difficulty). I'm not trying to subvert Mudcat, honestly.